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[ NNSquad ] RIAA and lawsuits
[ Some of you may have seen Bob's message already with my comments. I believe that a hardware failure may have caused some of you not to receive that note. Bob's original message and my comments are included again below. Sorry for any duplication. -- Lauren ] ------- Forwarded Message From: "Bob Frankston" <Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com> To: "'Lauren Weinstein'" <lauren@vortex.com>, <nnsquad@nnsquad.org> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:54:33 -0500 Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: RIAA to stop suing file-sharers, will work with ISPs to cut off repeat offenders So now the ISPs are going to act as content police? Why do we have service providers rather than access providers? It's as if we didn't get water from the city but had to buy soda, flushes, baths etc. Will the users have any recourse - or will they be deemed to be violating the terms of service which control the moral intent of the use of the services? Having to choose among censors is not the same thing as free speech - remember that these companies exist thanks to the Supreme Court's willingness to compromise free speech under the presumption of scarcity - these aren't private companies acting privately, these are companies charged with doing the best they can to maintain our rights. [ Several issue here. First, keep in mind that "free speech rights" in a Constitutional context generally apply to government actions, not to private parties. And I would suspect that most ISPs would suggest that they have never been charged with the requirement of maintaining our rights. Of course, laws can be changed. Note that the RIAA apparently plans to continue with their current queue of already filed lawsuits (though with how much enthusiasm remains to be seen) and reserves the right to file new lawsuits in the future against file-sharing targets if they choose to. There is indeed considerable speculation that the ISPs have little to gain and much to lose by participating in the new RIAA regime. Cooperating ISPs will now need to deal with a continuing flow of RIAA notifications (sending a notification to an ISP is simpler than filing a lawsuit against a target). Also, ISPs are likely to find themselves dragged into the disputes, and probably legal actions as well in extreme cases, that will result from the inevitable false accusations that will be triggered by faulty RIAA analysis and resulting notifications. Another fascinating aspect is the practicality of cutting people off from the Net in a "three strikes" manner. Is there going to be a blacklist to try prevent forbidden users from going to any other available ISPs (where such ISP options exist, of course)? Given the rush of private and public/governmental services to the Internet, is cutting people off from the Net much more practical than condemning them to a life without electricity? I've been pondering this question for some time in the context of judges ruling that released computer-crime or Internet sex-related felons stay away from computers and the Net. Now we potentially may see a significant expansion of persons who (in theory at least) are supposed to be "Netless Individuals" -- the ramifications of this are not at all clear. -- Lauren Weinstein NNSquad Moderator ] - -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Weinstein Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 23:07 To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org Cc: lauren@vortex.com Subject: [ NNSquad ] RIAA to stop suing file-sharers, will work with ISPs to cut off repeat offenders RIAA to stop suing file-sharers, will work with ISPs to cut off repeat offenders http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2008/12/19/technology/AP-Music-Downloading-L awsuits.html - --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren@vortex.com or lauren@pfir.org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com