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[ NNSquad ] Re: Google asks FCC to appoint it a "white space" database admin
There's a TON of risk even if you don't *SEE* anyone in your area (see http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=651). You should come see the "Wall of Sheep" at DEFCON sometimes (see http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=285). Turns out there is a really good way to offer anonymous privacy http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=587. George Ou - CISSP -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:34 PM To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Google asks FCC to appoint it a "white space" database admin Bob Frankston wrote: > I've got to take exception as I wrote in http://rmf.vc/?n=WhiteSpacePolicy. > > Trying to administer a database of whitespace is government at its worst. It > tries to manage the police state we already have to wireless. > > Far better is to just create a path through the current access points (AKA > wired<=>wireless routers) and moot the whole thing. This the pragmatic face > of Ambient Connectivity. > > [ Bob, what possible incentive would ordinary folks have to open > up their wireless (or wired) access points to all comers, given > the obvious potential for abuse and legal sanctions that can be > brought down on access point owners when that abuse occurs? Altruism? hope for reciprocation? recognition that network effects have to start somewhere? > Years have been spent teaching people to turn on at least basic > Wi-Fi crypto and establish that as a default condition. What's > in it for Joe Blow Internet user that will convince him to > share his Internet access with anyone who drives by, given the > risk of RIAA/MPAA or c-porn investigators banging on his door > when drive-by abuse occurs? What is this risk, specifically? I run open public wifi, and encourage others to do so, though I've been the only one in my radius lately. Lately I hear more encouragement of closure, but I'm not sure whether that's based on a measurable increase in risk, or just a different set of defaults in the equipment. --Wendy [ Unfortunately, "abusive" activity on an IP address is still often considered to be prima facie evidence of guilt. Trying to demonstrate otherwise can be expensive and time consuming -- that's why many accused parties pay fines that they shouldn't, just out of fear and to get the matter closed. Some countries are going farther. Concerns about terror threats led to a crackdown in India against open Wi-Fi. Singapore also has restrictions I believe. So if you're willing to "do the time" for someone else who abuses your connection, great. But given the "have an IP address, you're guilty" attitude that so often prevails, I think it's important for people to understand what the potential downside is to connection sharing in the current "screwed up" (that's a technical term) environment. -- Lauren Weinstein NNSquad Moderator ] - - - > > It's one thing to run public Wi-Fi when you're an established > firm or municipality with an on-staff legal team. But for > individuals who are easy targets of overzealous prosecutions? > > -- Lauren Weinstein > NNSquad Moderator ] > > > -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/