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[ NNSquad ] Re: Speculation, how AT&T can implement "copyright filtering" without wiretapping/dpi...
> As I understand it, this list was formed in reaction to Comcast being > caught red-handed ... engaging in responsible network management. If > it's meant to be a piracy rights forum, I was mislead. As the primary instigator of this project, I can state that while Comcast's repeatedly denying that they were manipulating P2P traffic until they were caught "red-handed" helped to speed things along, NNSquad is actually a direct outgrowth of my GIMAA proposal that predates the Comcast story by a couple of weeks I believe: ( http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000303.html ) As for the rest of the comments quoted below, I'll just say two words here for now: >> Due Process << --Lauren-- NNSquad Moderator - - - > It's important, I think, for us to distinguish legitimate and > illegitimate forms of traffic control, as well as to identify the > innocent victims of over-zealous enforcement of copyrights and all that. > > Large-scale piracy is a problem that cries out for a technical solution. > The problem is too blatant to ignore and we all bear the costs of it. If > half of residential broadband's capacity is devoted to stolen material, > cleaning up these networks makes more available to the rest of us at > lower cost. It can only help, as long as it's done right. > > The EFF argued with me at NN2008 that pirates would resort to crypto and > all that to avoid detection, but that bird doesn't fly. In order to > collude with someone you don't know to pirate MS Office, you need a > rendezvous system of some kind, If that system is heavily cloaked to > avoid detection it will be ineffective. The movement of piracy toward > cloaked systems actually serves the aims of the content owners even > better than immediate blocking or post-hoc prosecution. They want this > sort of thing not to happen at all, naturally, but are willing to accept > that a certain amount is unavoidable. > > The level of piracy we have today with Mininova, The Pirate's Bay and > their kin is so blatant we can't really expect the content owners to do > nothing about it. > > RB > > Edward Almasy wrote: > > On Jan 28, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Richard Bennett wrote: > >> There is a risk of unfair shut-offs, but it's very, very small and > >> can be dealt with after the fact in some reasonable way. > > > > I would suggest that the very existence of NNSquad belies this > > argument. It's likely that few if any on this list are spammers, > > however most here have been directly affected in one fashion or > > another by anti-spammer measures, and I would suspect many of us are > > here in part because of the prospect of similar unfair measures being > > introduced. > > > > Ed > > > > > >