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[ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP)
Isn't practical? I do it on a regular basis. At the moment I'm actually
using my Comcast connection more than my 20/20 FiOS because the ActionTec
router seems to be problematic but 20/20 will soon seem like the slow lane.
$100 actually buys 1TB these days but it's not the same as continuous
offsite backup.
Also remember that a digital camera can easily fill up a 32GB SD card -- I
should not worry about uploading a few hours worth of video to a studio on a
daily basis. Especially if the studio is in the same town as I am so the
bits don't have to incur peering bills for the provider.
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From: nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org
[mailto:nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of
George Ou
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 19:36
To: 'Bob Frankston'; 'Lauren Weinstein'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP)
You're changing the subject Bob. I didn't say I liked the Time Warner 40GB
plan, in fact I don't like it at all. I merely said that any talk of people
not willing to download security updates is just silly.
That said, backing up more than 40 GBs of data remotely over any broadband
or WAN connection (excluding 20/20 FiOS or better) isn't really practical
even without the usage caps. You're always going to be better off with a
500 GB USB 2.0 drive that you can get for $100 which typically operate at
240 Mbps.
George
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Frankston [mailto:Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: 'George Ou'; 'Lauren Weinstein'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org
Subject: RE: [ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP)
But if I want to recover the 130GB I have backed up remotely that means I
need to wait over three months?
-----Original Message-----
From: nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org
[mailto:nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of
George Ou
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 18:31
To: 'Lauren Weinstein'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP)
This is starting to get really silly. We're looking at about 40 MBs for
Windows update per month which is 1000 smaller than Time Warner's 40GB cap.
[ Don't fail to account (no pun intended) for the psychological
aspects of caps. In many areas of life -- not just
technology-related ones -- it's long been recognized that people
do not necessarily react to perceived limits in completely
logical ways. It is not at all unreasonable to postulate that
many persons will cut back on what they consider to be
"expendable" downloads (e.g. routine OS and application updates)
rather than reduce their movie downloading. This is likely to
be true even when the combination of both wouldn't actually
exceed the cap. All manner of unanticipated consequences likely
lurk with bandwidth caps being imposed on previously "unmetered"
services.
-- Lauren Weinstein
NNSquad Moderator ]
-----Original Message-----
From: nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org
[mailto:nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of
Lauren Weinstein
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:16 PM
To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org
Cc: lauren@vortex.com
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP)
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From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
To: "ip" <ip@v2.listbox.com>
Subject: [IP] bandwidth restrictions redux
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:57:12 -0400
Begin forwarded message:
From: DV Henkel-Wallace <gumby@henkel-wallace.org>
Date: October 29, 2008 4:17:07 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
Subject: bandwidth restrictions redux
Since bandwidth restrictions have started coming into place I have
seen comments from people on the net saying that they cannot or will
not download software updates because of their provider's bandwidth
cap. Not from people complaining politically but just ordinary users
(e.g. see various comments on the macintouch site). I presume this
will increase the chance of security patches not being downloaded.
Since it's an ill wind that blows no good I guess I've also seen the
upside: people complaining about heavy web pages and the use of
flash. Really, if bandwidth caps eliminate flash, can we really
complain?
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